i have always been a small government guy. that's why i think that the private sector and society can take care of itself better than government can. >> did they get heated? rhea pearlman another left wing woman. did they get heated? >> they would say this is actually a phrase that they -- if he runs -- remember they were having the recall. somebody said maybe kelsey is going to run. he says i hope he does run i am going to pay a million dollars to defeat them. >> who said that? >> one of the producers of the show. >> you were out numbered? >> i am always out numbered. >> coming up comedians denis leary and john lovitts unleash. >> i believe in strong military and helping those below you. >> later ted kopple and i go head to head over the topic of the popularity of the fox news channel coming right back. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- you can stay in and share something... or you can get out there and actually share something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on. this is the pursuit of perfectio